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Mr Morningstarr wrote: Lpspider wrote:
Then what, in your opinion, would make something "logical"?
Logic requires reasoning, not just popularity. If going to war with France was detrimental to the country the Government should logically do what's best for the country, not just give in to popular opinion. That is what a Government does, they don't hold referendums for every decision.
But wouldn't you have riots to a more extreme degree if the government totally ignored what it's people wanted? Yes, that is what I'm saying. I don't believe religion has a huge part in decision making in Government, but many decisions are made because of religion and the requirement to keep the masses reasonably content.
was it not you who said the government should basically ignore the people? If so, you think it's okay for mass riots to take place because the government ignores the people?
we can go back and forth for hundreds of posts but this comes down to issues. what specific issues do you see religion mixed in with the politics? Because obviously no politician is publicly saying "my platform is to promote Christianity or the Jewish faith, or any other religion, etc. They may be a Catholic or Jewish or whatever, but it will never be "Ronald Reagan, Catholic For President" - it will be where the religious beliefs of the people involved in the races come into the issues they support.
TVDinner wrote: we can go back and forth for hundreds of posts but this comes down to issues. what specific issues do you see religion mixed in with the politics? Because obviously no politician is publicly saying "my platform is to promote Christianity or the Jewish faith, or any other religion, etc. They may be a Catholic or Jewish or whatever, but it will never be "Ronald Reagan, Catholic For President" - it will be where the religious beliefs of the people involved in the races come into the issues they support.
I don't know. In the republican debate the other day, they asked what is it you regret most and one of them said something along the lines of "Not finding Jesus Christ as my lord and savior earlier". I'm not voting for this guy.
TVDinner wrote: we can go back and forth for hundreds of posts but this comes down to issues. what specific issues do you see religion mixed in with the politics?
It comes down to that and WHY it's a bad thing.
You wouldn't vote a guy because he was a Christian? Wow. Way to be open-minded to ideas. I wouldn't rule out voting for an atheist or a moslem or a roman catholic or whatever soley because of their faith. I'd what to know their stance on the issues that mattered and compaire how and why their faith impacted it the way it does.
Lpspider wrote: Mr Morningstarr wrote: No, I don't think it's OK. And it is the fault of religion.
Governments can be forced into making stupid decisions to appease idiots. That is why religion should play no part in politics.
That is why religion should be totally phased out.
But see, that's impossibly vague. Give me an example. What makes your opinion more valuable than the so-called idiots?
Do you realize what you're saying? to totally get rid of any so-called "religious" beliefs whatsoever? Didn't Stalin do that? hmmmm... Because my opinion is based on logic and not an invisible non-entity.
Yes I realise what I'm saying. I'm saying religion is an out dated concept that should have no place in making Government decisions. Time and resources are wasted on appeasing people who live in a fantasy.
Religion guides (for many people) the decisions they make in life - morality should indeed influence the decisions we make in life, but to invoke religion directly as background for governmental rules or programs is simply wrong.
Governments can be forced into making stupid decisions to appease idiots. That is why religion should play no part in politics.
That is why religion should be totally phased out.
But see, that's impossibly vague. Give me an example. What makes your opinion more valuable than the so-called idiots?
Do you realize what you're saying? to totally get rid of any so-called "religious" beliefs whatsoever? Didn't Stalin do that? hmmmm... Because my opinion is based on logic and not an invisible non-entity. Honestly, that is one of the most ignorant statements I have ever seen. You ask us to look at things with an open mind, yet you are an extremely close minded person yourself.
