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Posted: Sun Jul 22nd, 2007 06:56 pm
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Official Rudy Giuliani thread... discuss.

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Posted: Mon Jul 23rd, 2007 11:00 pm
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Yes, Rudy turned New York City completely around and is probably one of the best Mayors the city had and will ever have.

BUT...

Does this make him a good selection for President? I would have to say no. I can't see Rudy being a good president. What worked for NYC will not work for the entire US and it seems he may be under the impression that he thinks it will work.



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Posted: Wed Jul 25th, 2007 03:53 am
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The way I see it, He DID change New York around... and things cant get much worse. He has already shown what he is capable of. This is what I am hoping, anyway.

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Posted: Wed Jul 25th, 2007 04:10 am
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Yeah but what works for a city will not work for an entire country. Things can get much worse, do I think he will make them worse? Probably not. Will he make them better is the real question... I don't think so. But we're not looking for someone to keep things the same... at least I'm not.



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Posted: Thu Jul 26th, 2007 01:16 am
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Any candidate that basically uses fear of terrorism as the platform - and even intimates that voting democratic is voting to be attacked again - has no place in office.

 

Posted: Thu Aug 9th, 2007 07:44 am
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I have difficulty with Rudy. I was excited when he announced - but then I learned of his position on Abortion...and with him being Catholic - there is either a flaw in his thinking or some form of hypocrisy in his faith - not sure which. It makes him double minded. He claims to have faith - so from that standpoint, his Bible states (as mine does) "A double-minded man is unstable in ALL his ways." He seems to have trouble with the Abortion issue. He struggles with Fair Tax per his statements on the ABC Iowas debate.

No doubt that he loves America. He wants to finish the job that Bush Started - find Bin Ladin...in that regard - he is a heroe. We need a cheerleader for America in the White House - not a person that thinks America is broken. The Presidency needs to be focused on finishing the war - with a win AS WELL AS the other domestic issues we have at home (health-care, tax reform, DC Business as usual, and others).

With Mike Huckabee - I have no qualms about ANY of his positions (I did have to learn about the Fair Tax - and I do wonder how it will be implemented - however it is the Buzz Word here in DC - and it is a very real possibility).

"The best way to get out of Iraq is to WIN in Iraq" - Mike Huckabee

 

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hawg, I would mostly agree with your post.

MH0825 wrote:
Yes, Rudy turned New York City completely around and is probably one of the best Mayors the city had and will ever have.

Well, I don't know about turning the city around. If you're refering to the drop in crime that was circumstancial.



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Posted: Sun Feb 3rd, 2008 02:33 pm
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and he drops out of the race -
Giuliani drops out of GOP race
Once the front-runner, former New York mayor's decline was stunning
The Associated Press
updated 8:55 p.m. ET, Wed., Jan. 30, 2008

SIMI VALLEY, Calif. - Rudy Giuliani, who sought to make the leap from New York mayor to the White House, dropped out of the Republican presidential campaign on Wednesday and endorsed front-runner John McCain for the nomination.

Giuliani made the announcement at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library a day after suffering a debilitating defeat in Tuesday's Florida primary.

With McCain at his side, Giuliani said the nation needed "someone who can be trusted in times of crisis."

"Obviously I thought I was that person," the former New York mayor said. "The voters made another choice."

He noted that he and McCain had managed to compete without running negative ads against each other and said, "We will remain friends." He said he would campaign for McCain as much as the Arizona senator wanted.

Giuliani recalled he had said in an earlier debate that McCain would be his choice for president if he were not running himself.

"If I'd endorsed anyone else, you would say I was flip-flopping," he said, mentioning an oft-repeated criticism of McCain's chief rival, Mitt Romney.

McCain called Giuliani a "true American hero" and said they shared political values.

Once the Republican front-runner, Giuliani finished a distant third in Florida on Tuesday to McCain and second-place finisher Romney. After the results, Republican officials had said Giuliani would endorse McCain.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger will endorse McCain on Thursday, his senior aides confirmed Wednesday. The backing was another boost six days before California’s high-prize primary.

‘You don't always win’
Speaking to supporters Tuesday night, Giuliani stopped short of announcing he was stepping down, but delivered a valedictory speech that was more farewell than fight-on.

"I'm proud that we chose to stay positive and to run a campaign of ideas in an era of personal attacks, negative ads and cynical spin," Giuliani said as supporters with tight smiles crowded behind him. "You don't always win, but you can always try to do it right, and you did."

Republican presidential candidates were scheduled to debate at the Reagan presidential library in Simi Valley on Wednesday night.

"I haven't talked to him," McCain said as he boarded a campaign charter plane Wednesday morning. "I'm going to talk to him today when we meet."

As he prepared to leave Florida for California on Wednesday, Giuliani said he was "not yet" ready to announce his intentions.

The big collapse
Tuesday's result was a remarkable collapse for Giuliani. Last year, he occupied the top of national polls and seemed destined to turn conventional wisdom on end by running as a moderate Republican who supported abortion rights, gay rights and gun control.

The results seriously decimated Giuliani's unconventional strategy, which relied heavily on Florida to launch him into the Feb. 5 nominating contests in about two dozen states.

But Florida proved to be less than hospitable. His poll numbers dropped and key endorsements went to McCain.

McCain, addressing his own supporters moments later in Miami, gave Giuliani a warm rhetorical embrace, a possible prologue to accepting Giuliani's expected support.

"I want to thank my dear friend, my dear friend Rudy Giuliani, who invested his heart and soul in this primary and who conducted himself with all the qualities of the exceptional American leader he truly is," McCain said. "

Staking a campaign on 9/11
Giuliani hung his bid for the Republican presidential nomination on his leadership. His stalwart performance as New York mayor in the tense days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on New York and Washington earned him national magazine covers, international accolades and widespread praise.

Steadfast in a crisis, as a candidate Giuliani was a bundle of contradictions, so much so that he liked to joke that even he did not always agree with himself.

After earning a reputation as a tough-talking, even abusive executive, Giuliani the presidential candidate was mostly mild-mannered in debates, even as those around him got meaner.

As New York mayor, he fostered a take-charge image by rushing to fires and crime scenes to brief the press, but some critics felt he was more concerned about taking credit from others for what became a historic decline in the city's crime rate during his tenure.

A bout with prostate cancer and the very public breakup of his marriage with second wife Donna Hanover — she first learned he was filing for divorce when he made the announcement at a televised news conference — forced Giuliani to withdraw from a race for the U.S. Senate against Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2000. The messy divorce was revisited in awkward detail once he re-entered politics.

With no working strategy in his presidential campaign, no primary victories and dwindling resources, the mayor's third-place finish in Florida spelled the end of his run, even if his crestfallen supporters couldn't believe it.

"They'll be sorry!" a woman with a New York accent called out to the mayor as he spoke.

Said Giuliani: "You sound like my mother."
Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


more at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22915310/

They will write books about how dumb his "gameplan" was. completely ignoring the other states to only campaign in Florida was an incredible mistake.

Now I wonder if he will be a VP candidate or even get consideration for other gov. positions if the Republicans end up winning.



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