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Posted: Sun Jul 22nd, 2007 07:19 pm
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Figured we could start a general discussion about the 2008 presidential election in general for discussion not particular to one party or another. 

It's been a while and the time is coming up again!  Shall be interesting this year as a new president must be selected.



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Posted: Mon Jul 23rd, 2007 03:30 pm
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As Fred Thompson recently said on Hannity..... "Its too early in the process to tell who is tell whats going to happen".



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Posted: Mon Jul 23rd, 2007 03:45 pm
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It is all posturing right now, on both sides.
In addition, I honestly feel that many of the "front runners" will be falling out of the race when the media finds something negative about them. This happens every single big election and someone will do something, or has done something, that will have them falling out of the race.

I think the people who think that the main 2 or 3 candidates on each side are set in stone right now are completely wrong.



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Posted: Mon Jul 23rd, 2007 03:56 pm
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Amen to that....

On a personal note, I am rooting for Hillary, no offense the women, but she will be much more beatable then Obama Hussein.... 



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Posted: Mon Jul 23rd, 2007 04:24 pm
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LOL @ Obama Hussein. But I do agree, I would like Hilary to be the candidate just because I feel that she would not have a chance.



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Posted: Mon Jul 23rd, 2007 04:40 pm
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Yeah, the next thing we need is our next President swearing an oath to the Koran.... oh wait he's not Muslim anymore.... or is he.... this thread just may make it to the Consipiracy area yet...



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Posted: Mon Jul 23rd, 2007 05:09 pm
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I have a feeling that you might see them together on the same ticket once one takes the clear lead. I am not sure if together they are a positive thing for the democrats, or a negative one.



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Posted: Mon Jul 23rd, 2007 06:10 pm
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TVDinner wrote: I have a feeling that you might see them together on the same ticket once one takes the clear lead. I am not sure if together they are a positive thing for the democrats, or a negative one.

Like you mentioned before, its way too early on to even accuratly predict who will be wear and for whom and for how many cookies.

If I were to call it out now, I would see "Hillary and Hussain" as the Dem leaders in that order at this point.

On the Rep. side I would say , ugh I am so undecided here...

Havent gotten into the 3rd parties yet... I just wish they had more a presence to be considered...



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Posted: Mon Jul 23rd, 2007 07:49 pm
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3rd party = They never have a real chance and probably never will. Just a massive waste of money for the Independent Candidate.



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Posted: Mon Jul 23rd, 2007 08:04 pm
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They seem to be getting a little more popular each year. I'd say within 20 or 30 years, we'll probably have an Independent as president.



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Posted: Tue Jul 24th, 2007 05:13 pm
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Steve wrote: Yeah, the next thing we need is our next President swearing an oath to the Koran.... oh wait he's not Muslim anymore.... or is he.... this thread just may make it to the Consipiracy area yet...
I am a big Christian (hence my Signature), but our government is secular. If someone of the Islamic faith could lead this country forward, I would vote for him or her.

I am leaning toward Barack at this point (He is a Christian, for future reference).  However I have no idea who I will eventually end up supporting.  I will be 3 months out of being able to vote in the 2008 elections (I'll be 17 and like 9 months), so it does not matter a big deal to me anyway.



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Posted: Tue Jul 24th, 2007 08:31 pm
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I say this with COMPLETE honesty, but this country is not ready to vote for EITHER an African American or woman for President. I have no doubt that it will happen someday, but even my African American friends don't think Obama has a real chance. He will make some noise and is definitely the most legitimate shot to date, but I just don't see it happening yet.



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Posted: Wed Jul 25th, 2007 04:28 am
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I agree with you TVD, I dont think that this country is ready yet... although, I must say, I am kinda interested to see what Hilary would do. Its gonna be interesting, thats for sure.

 

Posted: Wed Jul 25th, 2007 04:33 am
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Angel wrote: ... I must say, I am kinda interested to see what Hilary would do.

?  Did you forget about the 8 years that she was already president? :P



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Posted: Wed Jul 25th, 2007 04:58 am
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ROFLMAO!!!!!

Nice.

 

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Hilary for President!! And we get Bill back. I know I'm not an American but the President of the US is also the President of Europe in a way..

I'm not even a demokrat but I think Bill did a great job. And the blowjob is not a big deal in Europe. Way to go Bill!! :) he he.



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Posted: Thu Jul 26th, 2007 12:58 am
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I feel like quoting nearly every single post here and rebutting or at least sharing my own points of view on all of them.

Who is to say what the country is "ready" for and why does one need to "be prepared" to accept a leader who either not white or not male or not a Christian (though Barack is)?

I think it shows personal bias against the candidates to assume that the country as a whole would have a difficult time accepting them.

As for the slam about swearing on a Koran - I am of the mind that the solemn oath of office for presidency ought to be sworn onto whatever holy book or deeply held conviction the person taking office has. It is fear mongering behavior to suggest that a vote for Obama would result in the Koran being used in place of a bible.

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Posted: Thu Jul 26th, 2007 03:12 am
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I feel like quoting nearly every single post here and rebutting or at least sharing my own points of view on all of them. Go right ahead, we enourage that. double post, triple post, we dont care if you are making a point! :)

Who is to say what the country is "ready" for and why does one need to "be prepared" to accept a leader who either not white or not male or not a Christian (though Barack is)?that is just my opinion. I literally work with a majority of minorities (that sounds funny) and in many cases in my work environment I am the minority (as a white man). And even the people I am around every day, who are educated African Americans, ultimately don't think Barack has a chance...yet.

I think it shows personal bias against the candidates to assume that the country as a whole would have a difficult time accepting them. No - it is just my opinion

As for the slam about swearing on a Koran - I am of the mind that the solemn oath of office for presidency ought to be sworn onto whatever holy book or deeply held conviction the person taking office has. It is fear mongering behavior to suggest that a vote for Obama would result in the Koran being used in place of a bible.I wish religion was not an issue in politics at all. Fairy tales, fables, folk lore, and personal beliefs should not factor into running a country or the government, but sadly they do.



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Posted: Thu Jul 26th, 2007 08:19 pm
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What about health care?

In Denmark we have free health care... OK we pay a lot of tax for it but in the end it works fine. No homeless people.. No pore people. It can be done and we are not communists... :)



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Posted: Thu Jul 26th, 2007 08:49 pm
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It's easy for us, we just create false canadian citizenship cards :)



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